The Hollyman English Ancestry Quest 2019, Part 14

by Glenn N. Holliman

11th Stop

Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England

May 19, 2019 

The Hartwell House, What Could Have Been

The last ancestral stop on our weekend journey to our family's past was to drive a few miles further north from Dinton to a National Trust Hotel, that English organization that for several generations has been saving and preserving valuable historical properties.  One of their properties was a home of the Lee family thanks be to Thomas Lee, d 1626, a first cousin of my generation's 8th great grandfather, Thomas Hollyman of Sherington and Bedfordshire (abt 1581-abt 1650).

 
We arrived in time for afternoon tea with our own private room.  Pricey but this was the last stop as an extended family, so a celebration was had - an English High Tea!  This did hold us for the ride back to Moreton-in-Marsh.

This Thomas Lee was the brother of my generation's 9th great grandmother Margaret Lee Holliman, wife of Christopher Hollyman, d 1589 in Sherington.  Margaret's brother married well, one Eleanor Hampden, a sister of wealthy Sir Alexander Hampden. 

When Alexander died, his home, the Hartwell estate, passed through Eleanor into the Lee family.

And there it stayed for generations while future Lees served in the British government.

Below the 'modest' back lawn of the Hartwell House.

The marriage of Eleanor Hampden Lee to Thomas must have been a happy one.  Eleanor, one of our great aunts by marriage, bore 24, that's right, no typo, 24 children.  No doubt the family eventually welcomed a house the size of Hartwell!

The House is not anything if not ornate!  Below Mary Holliman Fenske poses on the stairs.  A U.S. president and French kings have climbed these steps during the life time of the home.  It was delight to explore this stately manor 'hotel'.

Below, Marcia Holliman presents 'the Hollyman Ancestry Quest' coach to Glenn N. Holliman, a much appreciated remembrance gift of our weekend ancestral journey.

One has to ask what the fate of Lee/Holliman descendants visiting Hartwell House in May 2019 might have been if Christopher Hollyman had married a Hampden rather than a Lee?  

Oh, what could have been, but then we might not be on this earth, certainly in our present DNA format.

And so after this historic site, we mounted our coach and headed back to our Cotswold Hotel

When We Were English, Part LVII

by Glenn N. Holliman

The Family of Margaret Lee Holyman....

This post continues our exploration of the life and extended family of Christopher Holyman, d. 1588, of Sherington, Buckinghamshire, England.  Evidence indicates he is a son of John Holyman, d. 1558, of Cuddington, Buckinghamshire and that his grandfather was Christopher Clark of the same shire.  This appears to be the origin of the first name Christopher which still appears to this generation in the Holyman families (and various spellings) in the United States.

Thanks be to the research of professional genealogist Anne Holmes of Buckinghamshire, England, we have information on the wife of Christopher Holyman, d. 1588.  This person, whom I believe is a direct great grandmother of mine, was Margaret Lee of Moreton in the parish of Dinton, Buckinghamshire.

Margerate Lee must have come into the marriage with a sizeable dowry from her father, Thomas Lee.  Margaret must have come with such a benevolence as we find the couple in the 1580s living in Sherington, Buckinghamshire.  Research by genealogist Anne Holmes reveals the names of the children of Christopher and Margaret.  

The Lees were a family of landed gentry, who settled in the area sometime in the 15th Century.  Margaret's father was Thomas Lee who died in 1572.  In his will, he does not describe himself as either gentleman or knight.  However, his son, Thomas, Margaret's brother, who died in 1626 does describe himself as a knight in is Will, a person of high social status in Stuart England. 

This brother-in-law of Christopher Holyman married Eleanor Hampden, the sister of Sir Alexander Hampden.  After the death of Alexander Hampden in 1618, a major estate passed into the Lee family through Eleanor (his sister), that being the Hartwell House of Dinton.

Below in 2012, Anne Holmes and yours truly shared a pub meal in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire and reviewed family history.  Upon rising from the table, we discovered the print behind us was ironically of the Lee family Hartwell House.  Photo by Barbara Holliman.

Anne Holmes speculates  Thomas Lee, d 1626, acquired his knighthood possibly through the Hartwell Estate.  "By the end of the 17th Century, the Lees had become Baronets.  In contrast, the Holyman family star in Buckinghamshire was at its brightest in the mid 16th Century when Thomas Holyman (d 1558) had the manor of Cuddington and his kinsman, The Rt. Rev. John Holyman, was Bishop of Bristol. 

In the mid 16th century, the Holyman and Lee families would probably have been seen as contemporary equals in social status hence the marriage of Christopher Holyman to Margaret Lee" write Mrs. Holmes.

Eleanor Lee (nee Hampden) would then be a sister-in-law to Christopher Holyman (d 1588). According to The Victoria County History of Buckinghamshire, Eleanor and Thomas had twenty-four children!  This great aunt died in 1633, one would imagine of exhaustion, and is buried in Dinton, Buckinghamshire.  The following plaque in the parish church records her 'achievement' and also her kindness to the poor. (Click on copy twice to enlarge.)

References for this article are found at  http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=62771&;strquery=Lee  and William Betham's late 19th Century publication The Baronetage of England

Next Post, more on the fascinating Lee family of Buckinghamshire....



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Since early 2010, I have been publishing research and stories on the broad spectrum of Holliman (Holyman) family history at http://hollimanfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/ . For stories on my more immediate family since the early 20th Century, I have been posting articles since early 2011 at http://ulyssholliman.blogspot.com/ .

Let's save the past for the future! If you have photographs, letters, memorabilia or research you wish to share, please contact me directly at glennhistory@gmail.com. Several of us have an on-going program of scanning and preserving Holyman and related family records. Write  please and tell us of your items. Thanks to the Internet, we are able to scan, upload to the web (with your permission) and return the materials to you.

Announcing also a "Seminar and Site" gathering October 18 and 19, 2013 in Fayette, Alabama for Hollimans and associated families whose ancestors are from that area. Space at the Rose House Inn is limited for the occasion due to a football weekend. For information, contact me at the above email. Hope to see some of you there. - GNH